Is A.I. Already Taking Jobs? +A Filmmaker Tries Sora + The XZ Backdoor Caper


This week we look at how A.I. is affecting jobs. As companies start announcing A.I.-related job cuts and experimenting with customer service bots, economists are placing bets on whether A.I. will lead to major gains for companies and workers. Some are even predicting it will help rebuild the middle class.

Then, the multidisciplinary artist and filmmaker Paul Trillo joins to talk to us about his experience as part of a select group of testers granted early access to Sora, OpenAI’s video generation tool. And finally, Kevin explains what happened when a Microsoft developer stumbled on a huge cybersecurity breach.

Today’s Guests:

  • Paul Trillo, multidisciplinary artist, writer and director

Additional Reading:

“Hard Fork” is hosted by Kevin Roose and Casey Newton and produced by Whitney Jones and Rachel Cohn. The show is edited by Jen Poyant. Engineering by Alyssa Moxley and original music by Dan Powell, Corey Schreppel, Diane Wong and Pat McCusker. Fact-checking by Caitlin Love.

Special thanks to Paula Szuchman,Pui-Wing Tam, Nell Gallogly, Kate LoPresti and Jeffrey Miranda.